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HORACE HUBBARD Member since: 01/18/2012 Location: NC	Flagging by HORACE HUBBARD on 03:50:53 PM 03/04/2012 - [ Send Private Message ] Does anyone have a tip or solution,to stop a dog from flagging while on point.I know this can be inherited,and Ive been told you cant do anything about it.But the flagging that is man made by over handling can this be fixed.

JIM PAVONE Member since: 02/04/2012 Location: WA	RE: Flagging by JIM PAVONE on 11:54:09 AM 03/09/2012 - [ Send Private Message ] You may be able to fix it with a couple bird launchers and pigeons, pop the birds as soon as dog points or shows any uncertainty while pointing

JULIA HEIDBRINK Member since: 05/30/2008 Location: GA	RE: Flagging by JULIA HEIDBRINK on 01:01:33 PM 03/09/2012 - [ Send Private Message ] And lots of praise for the over managed dog... they need to think for themselves to some degree and need to know thats ok. And other than this, I agree with James.

JULIA HEIDBRINK Member since: 05/30/2008 Location: GA	RE: Flagging by JULIA HEIDBRINK on 01:01:33 PM 03/09/2012 - [ Send Private Message ] And lots of praise for the over managed dog... they need to think for themselves to some degree and need to know thats ok. And other than this, I agree with James.

DAVID POLL Member since: 12/11/2008 Location: MI	RE: Flagging by DAVID POLL on 02:32:18 PM 12/02/2014 - [ Send Private Message ] Be quiet....don`t talk to the dog at all when handling a young dog!

U. PENNACCHIETTI Member since: 02/03/2016 Location: ON	RE: Flagging by U. PENNACCHIETTI on 03:51:45 PM 01/01/2017 - [ Send Private Message ] I tend to agree with Mr. Poll. Even praise can be a conduit that makes an indirect contact to the issue - flagging. The fix is not in the dog - its in whomever handles/hunts the dog. It can be VERY hard to ignore something that detracts from your experience but there-in lies the fix. You need to totally ignore the flagging - relax, throw those shoulders back. Now youre talkin dog! This coupled with lots of opportunities to retrieve birds (preferably wild birds) will help YOU to refocus/redirect on shooting, which also takes pressure off the dog. ANYTHING uttered will only give flagging life. I will go as far as to allow a dog to unbreak while overcoming an issue. Once the issue fades, you can carefully revisit the training aspirations, if required.

EDWIN COOLEY Member since: 12/24/2007 Location: AL	RE: Flagging by EDWIN COOLEY on 01:35:04 PM 08/17/2017 - [ Send Private Message ] Many, many faults in dogs are the direct result of habits. Some habits/faults are very mysterious. That is, they just happen one day and the dog adds the habit to his behavior. I have found that training is a matter of habit formation. The trainer helps and encourages good habits while discouraging bad habits. Most, but not all flagging, is man-made (usually caused by over-handling or putting too much pressure on a dog before the dog is ready. Ive also found that preventing a problem is much, much easier than correcting a problem. Im fortunate that I am short on patience when it comes to correcting problems with my own dogs and that I can afford to replace problem dogs. (I do cull most dogs before they develop bad habits simply I field trial and must work with only the most talented and trainable dogs.)

DOUG CHILSON Member since: 08/12/2011 Location: NM	RE: Flagging by DOUG CHILSON on 11:37:47 PM 12/28/2023 - [ Send Private Message ] I have cured it a few times with an admittedly controversial method. Shoot a pointed bird on the ground well in front of the dog. One dog I had to do it twice.

RAYMOND FORNEY Member since: 09/29/2021 Location: MD	RE: Flagging by RAYMOND FORNEY on 07:27:56 AM 07/30/2024 - [ Send Private Message ] Doug is right! I’m presently trying the German exploding quail technique. With the dog flagging on point, blast the bird right in front of him. Or if too far away or an unsafe angle, just shoot the gun. After a couple tries it seems to be working, the dog tightens right up. We even saw a flagging creeping backing dog tighten up on the same shot. We will see how well it sticks. I’m out east, we have no wild birds, so it’s lots of pen-reared birds, and we run NSTRA, where flagging can cost a few points.

DOUG CHILSON Member since: 08/12/2011 Location: NM	RE: Flagging by DOUG CHILSON on 11:41:22 AM 10/24/2024 - [ Send Private Message ] Well, you just named the method. German exploding quail technique. Catchy. Glad it worked. I used it as a last resort, twice. Both times with good results. The idea actually sprang from Bill Gibbons and Bill West.